The Classic British Isles Buses Website (by Shane Conway)


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Website launched by Dick Gilbert in August 1996, and this page was last updated on 27 September 2024.

Please note, there will be no updates added from 16:30 on September 29th until 15:00 on October 20th, due to a holiday break. Any emails sent during this time will be acknowledged as they arrive. Thanks.


Welcome to the home of classic buses and coaches on the net, established by Dick Gilbert in 1996. An Irish section was added by Shane Conway in 2002, followed by a Manx section in 2012. This site is all about nostalgia for British Isles passenger transport vehicles from the 1920s to the 1980s, with his unashamed bias towards halfcab buses. As the years roll on though, more recent types which have faded from public use are also featured.

Each page has a different colour scheme which is supposed to be reminiscent of some bus or coach company from the era, and this one is meant to represent Western and Southern National. As a result of this arrangement, some of the pages are hard to read, and some will scramble your brain. Hopefully you'll manage.

This website is dedicated to the memory of the Classic Buses website founder, Dick Gilbert, who set up the site back in 1996. He was born in South London on October 28th, 1947, and his interest in the topic of the site began around 1959/60 after his family moved to Eastbourne in Sussex, the buses and coaches that were around would all be considered classics nowadays. It was an interesting period, when there were still pre-war and wartime utility machines about (although mostly on the point of retirement), and a large number of half-cab vehicles that had been built immediately after the war. At the same time, new products like the Leyland Atlantean, AEC Regent V, and a host of then modern coach designs (Plaxton Panorama, Harrington Cavalier, Weymann Fanfare etc.) were appearing. It was a transitional period when vehicles from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s could all be seen in use at the same time.

Having been born in south London, London Transport was the first operator that he lived with, then his family moved to Sussex and he grew up with Southdown, Maidstone and District, East Kent, and the municipal fleets of Eastbourne and Brighton, as well as the large number of excursion coaches that used to visit the south coast every summer.

In the early 1960s he used to make trips to London to visit Victoria Coach Station, or see the last of the London Transport trolleybuses, or the last halfcab single deckers (TDs). Unfortunately, although he saw what he went to see, most of the photographs he took are not particularly brilliant, or have been lost. However there are some black and white pictures taken at Victoria Coach Station, London, and in Sussex between 1960 and 1962 which are barely reasonable, and some of them appear around this site. Here's one:

This was taken at The Crumbles, Eastbourne, in the summer of 1962, where Claude Lane was running the narrow gauge Eastbourne Tramway (now moved to Seaton, Devon). He had used this ex Lincolnshire Road Car Leyland KPZ01 Cub as a lorry in the past, and it was left to rot outside his depot. New in May 1937 it was FW 8855, originally fleet number LC502, one of 30 delivered that year with Brush B20F bodies. It is possible that someone might rescue it these days, if it was still about.

Being employed in the airfreight industry for many years, he managed to visit many overseas locations and wrote several pages on various locations around the world, including a 1970 trip overland to Tehran he and a friend made in a ten year old Volkswagen camper van. After a serious illness Mr. Gilbert passed away in Sussex on Wednesday, May 31st 2023, leaving behind many years of classic bus research which can be seen at the various links listed on this page. Without his help, patience and generosity my Irish and Manx sites would never have gone online, and by way of thanks for his help, I agreed with his family in 2023 to continue to run the site in the years ahead.

It's all for fun, so relax and have a wistful rummage through the scrapbook. If you weren't around in the 1960s (and they say that, if you were, you won't remember it) then these pages will provide an insight into the variety of some of the glamorous machines that could be seen on British and Irish streets at the time.

Please call back from time to time, as changes are taking place here all the time, and let me know if you spot a mistake somewhere - I do try to keep things pretty accurate. I know that there are some real boffins out there, and I need you to tell me when something is inaccurate, or if you have additional data or photographs. Suggestions for additional pages, news updates and rally reports are always appreciated too, these can be emailed to me here. So welcome to the site, browse around and make yourself at home.


Dick Gilbert in Independence Square, Kyiv, Ukraine in 1996, around the time he originally set up the Classic Buses website.


Recent updates


 
September 2024 27/09/2024: More photos added to the London Fleetlines page 26/09/2024: King Alfred page - EOR 415D updated 24/09/2024: Updates to the Commer Commando page 18/09/2024: NEW ADDITION: List of past events for 2023/24 18/09/2024: NEW ADDITION: A look at Irish bus adverts in 1957 and New updates to the events page, some more listings for 2025 10/09/2024: AEC, Leyland 1946 - 1955 and Leyland 1956 - 1970 pages updated with additional data
September 2024 06/09/2024: Croatia page updated with new header layout and additional data 05/09/2024: Report on the Devon General Society event 04/09/2024: Isle of Man Transport page 1 updated (WMN 6, MAN 30N and CMN 34C); Isle of Man Transport page 2 updated (GMN 372N) 04/09/2024: Isle of Man Road Services page updated (HMN 787, MMN 302 and WMN 6) 04/09/2024: All visit report pages header layouts revised 03/09/2024: New updates to the events page, including our first listing for 2025
August 2024 30/08/2024: Adverts, Commer, Events, Gilbert photo pages, News and Mail, Photo index and Vintage Galleries pages header layouts revised 29/08/2024: Sri Lanka, Tanzania, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Vietnam pages header layouts revised 28/08/2024: India, Macedonia, New Zealand and Peru pages header layouts revised 27/08/2024: Australia, Cambodia, China and Costa Rica pages header layouts revised 26/08/2024: Albania, Argentina and Bangladesh pages header layouts revised
August 2024 24/08/2024: Report on the Routemaster 70 event 24/08/2024: Events, rally reports and surviving classic buses pages header layouts revised 23/08/2024: Alexander, Crosville, and Dundee pages header layouts revised 22/08/2024: Aston, Barton, Birmingham, Guide Friday, Halls, Midland General, Oxford, Potteries, Taylors and Trent pages header layouts revised 20/08/2024: Aldershot and District, Eastbourne, East Kent, King Alfred, Maidstone and District and Thames Valley pages header layouts revised 19/08/2024: Classic cars, Irish Republic and chassis pages header layouts revised
August 2024 17/08/2024: Crosville, Thames Valley, AEC and Leyland chassis pages updated 17/08/2024: NIRTB 1940-48, Belfast diesels, LLSR, Ulsterbus 1967-72 and all UTA pages updated 17/08/2024: Douglas, IoMRS, Tours, IoM Coaches and all CIE pages updated 13/08/2024: All Northern Ireland pages header layouts revised 11/08/2024: Crosville, Douglas and Lough Swilly pages updated with additional data 11/08/2024: Leyland 1946-55, 1956-70 and IoMNT 1976-86 pages updated with additional data
August 2024 10/08/2024: Southdown postwar pages updated with additional data 07/08/2024: Clifford Jones, London and Southdown pages header layouts revised 04/08/2024:An update on the mail and news page 04/08/2024: Malta pages header layouts revised 04/08/2024: Manx fleet pages header layouts revised 02/08/2024: Manx, Irish and UK introduction pages layouts revised
July 2024 30/07/2024: New updates to the events page -- many 2024 events now listed 09/07/2024: Simon Lang tribute
June 2024 Update to the adverts page -- Badgerline blazer required 16/06/2024 Updated info on LJ 500 on the surviving halfcabs page 11/06/2024 Citybus, Belfast - AEC Swift 45 corrected 11/6/2024 Ulsterbus 1977-1982 Leyland Leopard 189 updated 09/06/2024 A new ?? MYSTERY PICTURE ?? from Ireland - see below. 06/06/2024 Belfast visit in 2024 04/06/2024
May 2024 A look at ex U.K. Leyland single deckers in Malta 30/05/2024 CIE 1956-1961 page - R691 details updated 17/05/2024 Visit to Hampshire in 2024 15/05/2024 Additional picture added to Southdown open-top utility Guy Arabs page 09/05/2024 Additional picture added to London DMS class Fleetlines page 09/05/2024 Review of the King Alfred event in Winchester 08/05/2024
April 2024 Review of the Irish Transport Heritage event in Belfast 28/04/2024) Updated info on DFK 214 on the surviving halfcabs page (26/04/2024) Commer Commando airline buses review 24/04/2024) Picture of HA 9483 added to the surviving halfcabs page 15/04/2024)
March 2024 Updated info on JNN 384 on the Barton post-war Leyland Titans page 30/03/2024


**STAR PICTURE**

Something different for a change, a Routemaster still in revenue earning service. The Dame Street area of Dublin had been closed off on March 23rd 2024 for a hour or two to accomodate a protest march against the Palestinian conflict, resulting in a number of bus routes and other traffic being held up while it passed by. Most of the buses were typical modern Dublin Bus vehicles, but then I spotted the RM....... It's one of three Routemasters now owned by Vintage Tea Tours in Dublin, this one being the latest recruit to the fleet, re-registered ZV 12589. Previously it was WLT 654, which had been preserved in Ulster since the mid 1980s in original London Transport livery, and very smart it was too, even retaining its Leyland engine. Recently it was sold, to re-emerge in this format joining similarly attired ZV 10903 (RM811) and ZV 11165 (RM2078). It does raise debates as to whether buses which have been preserved and restored should end up like this, and both for and against opinions can seem equally valid. There is always the option to one day restore the bus to original spec, but for now its being kept roadworthy and out earning its keep.


?? MYSTERY PICTURE ??

This ex London Transport RTL class bus was photographed in 1968 or 1969 at Ardmore Studios in Bray, Co. Wicklow by Michael Dryhurst, where it was serving as a support vehicle to the film industry. 1,631 of this type entered service with London Transport between November 1948 and November 1954, with a mix of Weymann and Park Royal bodywork. Many of them were sold off for further service to Sri Lanka and a variety of U K operators, with around 100 passing to dealers. It is assumed that NNI 559 is one of these dealer stock vehicles, but it is unknown which one. A further sighting (by me) of this bus (or possibly another one) was in the Skerries area in north Dublin around 1974, on a building site, painted green. I seem to recall it being NNI 759, hence the suggestion that there were two of them in Ireland.

So after 55 years, can anyone suggest an identity for this bus? Or both, if there were two? Email me if you can help.

LAST MYSTERY

The PD2 in Sri Lanka was identified as one of a batch of eight buses bought new in 1947, thanks to Simon Lang.


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